What do you think (Pics included)?

Are these the same shoes (for guys)? Be honest.





This one:





http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod108530058%26amp;parentId=cat3990749





And this one:





http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/salvatore-ferragamo-lanier-oxford/3050719?origin=category%26amp;resultback=171|||same name same price same shoe :)|||you can say so


but the second one is Kinda Different because of the leather


i guess|||one of those doesnt have a pic up of shoes.|||Green shirt