Are these the same shoes (Pics included)?

Are these the same shoes (for guys)? Be honest.





This one:





http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod108530058%26amp;parentId=cat3990749





And this one:





http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/salvatore-ferragamo-lanier-oxford/3050719?origin=category%26amp;resultback=171|||mmm, looks like it :S





can someone answer mine? if you want to? :)


http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Au1p6dxI7AQ55cgwbCQYPCggBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20110118073734AAq41gG|||I'm pretty sure that they are the same shoes :)|||daaaaaaah yah they r :)